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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 9, 2006 12:01:12 GMT 1
Thise are excersises with differentialequations. I don't now how to solve it and I have to know it for my exams, so maybe you can help me. If you find them, show how you did it. It's with partial integration (integral of u*dv=u*v-integral of v*du). You have to calculae the integral of those things: y=cos(x)*e -xAnswer should be: 1/2 [e -x*sin(x)-e -x*cos(x)]+C ---------------------------------------------------- y=bgcos(4x) Answer should be: x*bgcos(4x)-1/4*(1-16x 2) 1/2+C ---------------------------------------------------- y=[ln(3t)]/t² Answer should be: [-ln(3t)]/t - 1/t + C ---------------------------------------------------- y=sin(t)*ln[1+sin(t)] Answer should be: -cos(t)*ln[1+sin(t)]+t+cos(t)+C If you can help me, then I have a surprise for you .
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 9, 2006 23:04:30 GMT 1
I haven't studied Calculus II yet, just I, so it is not very easy to me to solve these things.[a href="http://[del:countolaf]"]http://[del:countolaf][/a]
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 9, 2006 23:47:50 GMT 1
I don't understand it, and it's main part of my exam.
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 10, 2006 0:50:36 GMT 1
Let me take an easier example I know how to answer: If we are trying to find the value of (symbol of integral)xcos(x)dx, then we can call:
u = x Then, du = dx And call all the rest dv Then, dv = cos(x)dx Then, v = sin(x)
Now we do: (symbol of integral)udv = uv - (symbol of integral)vdu And, using the values for u, v, du and dv we found: (symbol of integral)xcos(x)dx = xsin(x) - (symbol of integral)sin(x)dx And, finally: (symbol of integral)xcos(x)dx = xsin(x) + cos(x) + C[a href="http://[del:countolaf]"]http://[del:countolaf][/a]
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 10, 2006 10:01:09 GMT 1
Yea that's it, but now try to solve my things with this rule. I have no idea what to call u and what dv. You don't need any other rules except this one. If you can't solve it, nobody can .
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 10, 2006 18:15:38 GMT 1
NIIIIIIIIIIIICE 3 left .
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 10, 2006 18:19:42 GMT 1
I need a time to think about the others o.o I will go to Kumon now, I will be back in 3 hours I think. Hope you understood my explanation on how to solve first problem
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 10, 2006 18:20:17 GMT 1
Thx for the help .
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 10, 2006 18:21:31 GMT 1
No problem! I hope it wasn't too colourful. o.O
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 10, 2006 18:22:16 GMT 1
No it was good with the colors. Easy to see what you where doing. ;D
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 10, 2006 21:44:19 GMT 1
What is bgcos? Belgian cosines? [a href="http://[del:countolaf]"]http://[del:countolaf][/a]
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 10, 2006 22:25:17 GMT 1
bgcos=arccos=cos-1
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 10, 2006 23:56:59 GMT 1
Didn't know arccos = bgcos I will try to solve it now then
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 11, 2006 0:24:43 GMT 1
If we have ç bgcos(4x) dx, we can call: u = 4x Then, du = 4 dx
Then, ç bgcos(4x) dx = 1/4 ç bgcos(u) du .... (1)
We have that (not considering constant C): ç bgcos(u) du = u bgcos(u) - (1 - u^2)^1/2 .... (2)
Using equation (2) in equation (1): ç bgcos(4x) dx = 1/4 ç bgcos(4x) dx = 1/4 u bgcos(u) - 1/4 (1 - u^2)^1/2
Since u = 4x: ç bgcos(4x) dx = x bgcos(4x) - 1/4 (1 - 16x^2)^1/2
Then, considering the constant C: ç bgcos(4x) dx = x bgcos(4x) - 1/4 (1 - 16x^2)^1/2 + C
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 11, 2006 10:52:08 GMT 1
Thx for solving. I think bgcos is the new notation of arccos, at least it is in europe.
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 11, 2006 13:31:15 GMT 1
1) If we have (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx, we can call (not considering constants): u = cos(x) Then, du = - sin(x) dx dv = e^-x dx Then, v = - e^-x We can say that (symbol of integral)udv = uv - (symbol of integral)vdu Then: (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx = - cos(x) e^-x - (symbol of integral) e^-x sin(x) dx .... (1)
If we have (symbol of integral) e^-x sin(x) dx, we can call (not considering constants): u = sin(x) Then, du = cos(x) dx dv = e^-x dx Then, v = - e^-x We can say that (symbol of integral)udv = uv - (symbol of integral)vdu Then: (symbol of integral) sin(x) e^-x dx = - sin(x) e^-x + (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx .... (2)
Using equation (2) in equation (1), we have: (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx = - cos(x) e^-x - [- sin(x) e^-x + (symbol of integral) e^-x cos(x) dx] (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx = - cos(x) e^-x + sin(x) e^-x - (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx 2 (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx = - cos(x) e^-x + sin(x) e^-x
Then, considering constant C: (symbol of integral) cos(x) e^-x dx = 1/2 [sin(x) e^-x - cos(x) e^-x] + C
- Rewritten because I have corrected some errors
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 11, 2006 13:35:25 GMT 1
If we have (symbol of integral) [ln(3t)]/t² dt, we can call (not considering constant C): u = ln(3t) Then, du = 1/t dt dv = 1/t² dt Then, v = - 1/t We can say that (symbol of integral)udv = uv - (symbol of integral)vdu Then: (symbol of integral) [ln(3t)]/t² dt = - ln(3t)/t + (symbol of integral) 1/t² dt (symbol of integral) [ln(3t)]/t² dt = - ln(3t)/t - 1/t
Considering constant C: (symbol of integral) [ln(3t)]/t² dt = - ln(3t)/t - 1/t + C
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 11, 2006 16:54:00 GMT 1
Thanks . Maybe we should make a homework board .
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Post by Countolaf on Jan 12, 2006 0:45:07 GMT 1
(symbol of integral) sin(t) ln[1+sin(t)] dt We can call: u = ln[1 + sin(t)] Then, du = cos(t)/[1 + sin(t)] (using chain rule) dv = sin(t) Then, v = -cos(t)
We can say that (symbol of integral) u dv = uv - (symbol of integral) v du
Then: (symbol of integral) sin(t) ln[1+sin(t)] dt = - ln[1 + sin(t)] cos(t) + (symbol of integral) cos²(t)/[1 + sin(t)] dt
(symbol of integral) cos²(t)/[1 + sin(t)] dt = (symbol of integral) [cos²(t)][1 - sin(t)]/[1 + sin(t)][1 - sin(t)] dt = (symbol of integral) [cos²(t)][1 - sin(t)]/[1 - sin²(t)] dt = (symbol of integral) [cos²(t)][1 - sin(t)]/[cos²(t)] dt = (symbol of integral) [1 - sin(t)] dt = cos(t) + t
Then: (symbol of integral) sin(t) ln[1+sin(t)] dt = - ln[1 + sin(t)] cos(t) + cos(t) + t (symbol of integral) sin(t) ln[1+sin(t)] dt = - cos(t) ln[1 + sin(t)] + t + cos(t)
Considering constant of integration C: (symbol of integral) sin(t) ln[1+sin(t)] dt = - cos(t) ln[1 + sin(t)] + t + cos(t) + C
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Post by Fox Mc Cloud on Jan 12, 2006 9:32:21 GMT 1
Thanks Countolaf, you're great in maths .
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